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 How to get full colonization of shoebox / monotub?  #26953034 - 09/24/20 04:17 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
How to get full colonization of tub? Does anyone have any general advice on getting full colonization of a monotub or shoebox? I’ve tried 3 times and failed each. I make the bulk substrate using 1 coir brick, 8 cups vermiculite, 2 tablespoons gypsum. Add boiling water and allow to sit for 5-7 hours. Then when cool, and 1-2 colonized rice bags to shoebox. I’ve tried shoeboxes with 6-8 quarter inch holes drilled on the sides / covered in micropore tape. I’ve also tried shoeboxes with just keeping the lid shut, no holes. I add about 3 inches of bulk and layer the 1-2 colonized rice bags. Wait about 2 weeks, and it’s still only about 10% white coverage. Always the same. Does any of the above sound wrong? What am I missing?
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| Re: How to get full colonization of shoebox / monotub? [Re: Californialove543] #26953059 - 09/24/20 04:37 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
If it's stalling, it's probably because you're using unhealthy spawn. If by "rice bags" you're talking about uncle Ben's rice then yeah there's your problem.
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| Re: How to get full colonization of shoebox / monotub? [Re: Gan] #26953067 - 09/24/20 04:42 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
Unhealthy spawn as in a not fully colonized bag? What makes you say the uncle bens tek is a problem? I’m taking a beginner course that recommends them as a could way to start out
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| Re: How to get full colonization of shoebox / monotub? [Re: Californialove543] #26953087 - 09/24/20 04:52 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
Most won't recommend the uncle Ben tek because its similar to inoculating any other type of grain with a spore syringe. It does work but its high risk. Spores aren't guaranteed to be clean and could have bacteria or other contams on them. Injecting grain with a dirty syringe will result in dirty grain. The great majority of people here will recommend making agar and cleaning up your cultures. If you dont have a pressure cooker/canner, they'll recommend PF Tek. In all honesty, you would be better off just learning to do agar and following a good bulk tek. Eventually, youre going to take that route anyway and the learning curve is inevitable.
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| Re: How to get full colonization of shoebox / monotub? [Re: Doctor Mario] #26953097 - 09/24/20 05:00 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
I really, really, really hope youre not paying for a course thats teaching this new uncle ben's stuff. IF youre serious about this hobby, act like it. If you were trying to grow ganja would you use a 30w incandescent for light and just a dead fish for nutes and expect cup quality buds? I doubt it.
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| Re: How to get full colonization of shoebox / monotub? [Re: LotKid] #26953135 - 09/24/20 05:27 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you were trying to grow ganja would you use a 30w incandescent for light and just a dead fish for nutes and expect cup quality buds
30w incandescent and a dead fish you say? Lot, you should teach a beginners weed growing class. You could make so much money! Sarcasm aside, what is up with how much garbage is being taught regarding cultivating mushrooms nowadays... It's rather hilarious the kind of people that are passing off as successful cultivators. Some random friend of a friend drunkenly tried to get me to pay him to teach me the Uncle Bens tek hahaha! OP, BRF cakes are easy and way cheaper than Uncle Bens packets. Or just learn agar and move to grains already
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| Re: How to get full colonization of shoebox / monotub? [Re: mind.at.large] #26953143 - 09/24/20 05:34 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
Well sh*t... enrollment starts now, then. "Grow lots of bud with LotKid".... beginners encouraged. Reserve your spot today. 
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| Re: How to get full colonization of shoebox / monotub? [Re: Californialove543] #26953210 - 09/24/20 06:24 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
Jeez, there's an entire subreddit about UBT. 
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Unhealthy spawn as in a not fully colonized bag? What makes you say the uncle bens tek is a problem? I’m taking a beginner course that recommends them as a could way to start out
"Unhealthy" as in contaminated. Spores aren't clean. Shooting them into a bag of mold and bacteria food is a risky endeavor no matter the circ*mstances and UBT is usually done in dirtier conditions than any other tek. It doesn't help anyone learn how to master the craft. Layering the sub is also not something commonly done; usually the spawn and sub are mixed together and a thin pseudocasing put over the top.
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